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Hi all,I'm using Realband (RB) as DAW and a Roland Fantom G (FG) as keyboard.The FG has an internal audio card, which can be connected via usb to a pc and be used as input and output for midi and audio signals.So far so good. Midi record and playback runs flawlessy, midi port routing as well.A problem arises when I want to record audio from the FG into the DAW.Since the RB audio output of the other tracks is routed to the FG, it is mixed together with the instrument I want to record. Thus, in RB I have a mixdown of the single instruments with all the others that played in background during the recording.The question: how and where set RB to route the incoming output to the default PC soundcard, instead to the FG one? There should be a way to record the FG, without to send the background playing tracks of the DAW to the FG, but I can't find the way in Audio Options of RB. Am I missing something obvious here?I've tried also with Reaper, sadly with the same issue.Should I change the settings in the OS (System property), or inside the DAW?Optionally: Could someone with a Fantom G share his/her experiences with the FG audio card?Thanks in advance,Sergio#265583 - 10/15/14 09:48 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production Re: DAW, Fantom G and Audio routing.

You don't really ever want to use 2 sound cards at the same time. You can, but it generally simply leads to problems.Pick one.Most folks use the sound card that's connected to the computer. Internals can be used. But in my case, I don't use the internal sound card, I use an external card for ALL music related activities. Also be sure to use the proper driver that the manufacturer recommends.My external is a Focusrite Saffire connected by firewire with ASIO drivers.ALL inputs from audio sources, including mics and guitars go to this Focusrite interface. It routes the audio into the DAW as needed and into the track I want it to go to. This routing is selected from inside the DAW when I set up the track inputs.Saffire audio (left, right, and stereo) shows up in my audio input options and I simply select it as the input on a track by track basis.OUTPUT from the DAW is back to the external sound card (focusrite)by default, where I have my active studio monitors connected.

I never need to select my outputs, only the inputs on a track by track basis.Midi works the same way. Midi into the focusrite, into the DAW as selected in the midi tracks in the DAW. And audio back out to the focusrite.hope this helps. @Guitarhacker,like I said, if I use only one audio card, that is, the one of the Fantom G, then all the audio tracks are routed back to the Fantom while recording, thus the recorded track audio material consists of the whole mix, while I want to record only the played instrument.I can't figure out why this is not possible in all the nowadays DAWs.Take Audacity, for example. It can record from the Fantom G using its usb driver, and route the output to the local audio card. Sadly it can't be used really like a DAW.Reaper can do it too - I have tested it and works, while Magix Samplitude Music Studio can't - I can confirm it because I've installed the try-out version of both programs.It's a pity that Realband can't do it too.Still looking for a user-friendly and easy-to-use DAW.

There are so many devices on the market. And many of them try to do several things in one box. I have always tried to stay away from those sorts of things. Almost invariably, they cause some sort of issue when you try to use them to do certain things in a different way. Not saying that this is the case with your gear.I would need to see it and play with it to figure that out.Somehow, in the FG, the audio coming from the DAW is being placed on the input to the new track as well.Since I don't use Real Band as a DAW, I really don't know much about the track input output assignments.My personal preference is to use Cakewalk's Sonar as my DAW. To me, it is a much more versatile DAW, things are pretty straight forward, and it supports full duplex recording. Which essentially means, I can select any and all tracks to hear in my playback, PLUS I can monitor my live track being recorded in the mix and as I record, I know for a certainty that the only thing being recorded on that new track is the ONE instrument I have selected from the list of live audio inputs from the soundcard/interface.I still be believe the issue you have is directly related to the way the inputs are set up for that track.

The F-G would need to have the physical circuits and software in it to keep the audio returning from the computer from getting mixed into the new stuff you are playing on it that is being recorded. The possibility exists that this is NOT the case.If that proves to be the case, nothing you do will resolve it. You would need to have an external interface. I don't know enough about the keyboard based workstations with built in interfaces to know for sure if that is the issue since I don't use one or own one.Do you know anyone who has a good interface you could borrow? Go buy one at Sam Ash or Guitar Center because both stores IIRC have a 45 day no questions 100% refund policy. Het an M-Audio, Presonus, Focusrite, or equivalent USB based interface that uses ASIO drivers and see if that solves the problem.One more thought and question.

As you are playing back and recording the FG output. This is where you are getting the other stuff in that track.I assume that you are recording this in AUDIO? Have you tried setting up a midi track, assign the midi channel something other than omni and try recording that way? Since it's not audio, you should not get anything other than the midi data recorded.

Simply assign a softsynth of your choice to monitor and playback.Just curious.Also. I use Cakewalk Sonar for my DAW. Sonar now days but I used to use Music Creator with great results. I love PG's stuff, because there's nothing else like it on the market that does what it does so well, but when it comes to the Real Band DAW, I preferred the versatility I have in CW.

I might be wrong, but to me, things just seem to be a bit easier to get the work done I need doing. Perhaps it's simply because I am more familiar with it's intricacies and functions. I know how to do what I need to do and Sonar does it well.

I use Real Band in my work, but not as a DAW.One of these days, I will have another look and go at the RB DAW to see what it can do. I just need to find the time to set and play around.and that's hard to find.Edited by Guitarhacker ( 10/16/14 08:52 AM). Thanks for the insight Guitarhacker, you have some point here.The FG connects to the pc via usb.

To connect, it calls another phone number. I will only cover IPTables and Kernel 2. You can compile your own version of network-manager to enable wimax and hence network-manager will at least have a chance at recognizing your modem.Are you a developer? Wimax usb stick bm338 driver for mac free. As a result of things might be a bit different, but we bm38 work around it.XDA Labs Labs is an independent app store that gives developers full control over their work.

It is an Asio driver, and gives a 'Fantom Input' and a 'Fantom Out' port at disposal.On the FG side, I only set as input 'usb audio', and arm the 'mix' key.If I don't arm the 'mix' key, nothing will be 'heard' on the FG, which also means, I can't hear any sound, since both DAWs (RB and Magix Samplitude) don't allow me to use different cards for input and output - as a 'simple' software like Audacity instead does. If I select Fantom G then I can only use fantom input for input and fantom output for output. If I select the internal audio card, I can use the internal pc audio card and because of this I can't hear any sound from the Fantom, since it is connected via usb.I don't think it would be possible to set the FG in order to keep the incoming DAW audio signal from being mixed in. But I will further investigate in that direction.With Reaper it works because I can use the FG Input for the input, and the local pc audio card for the output, hence no sound will be sent to the FG. The same applies to Audacity.The Midi side works as expected with no hassle.I'll definately give a try to Sonar, I think the X version has everything I need, is a bit pricey but hey, so are also the others.Since you are a Sonar user, do you know if from within the software you can select the external audio card as input, and the internal pc audio card (if any) as output?Cheers,Sergio.Edited by semar ( 10/16/14 09:33 AM).

Sonar is designed to allow the use of ONE sound card. Most of the professional quality gear will not allow 2 cards to be used together in sync.When you use 2 cards, the problem you have is that both of the cards have clocks and those clocks are NOT synced. That spells T R O U B L E.Having said that.It is possible to use 2 sound cards with Sonar. People try to use their factory card and then use a USB mic for input. The computer sees this as 2 cards.

Sonar will run this but the sync issue and latency pop up real quick in this set up and it is really more trouble than most can deal with.It's always best to use one pro quality external interface and run everything through it.BTW: Sonar is a bit pricy. You can either look at the 'essential' version, which is actually what I use.

Or look at Music Creator 6 touch version. It's even cheaper.But.

No matter what direction you go, my advice would be to plan to get a decent interface as I mentioned. The interface can be straight up audio since the FG will let you send the midi in via USB. It will simply show up in the list of available midi devices for midi tracks. You would run the FG audio output into the new audio interface input and life would be good. Monitor the mix from the audio outs on the interface. The pro level audio interface would route the incoming audio to the track and nothing else would be in there with it.Sometimes, it takes buying some better gear to do the job right. You know the old saying.

The right tool for the right job. And I like to add, don't buy cheap tools. You get what you pay for. As a man who makes a living with my hand tools, I would never buy screwdrivers and pliers from Walmart to use in my work.or even at home. Same basic principle applies with audio tools, gear, and software.I also like to say that when you buy the interface, get a good one.

It's literally the heart of your studio. Everything going into or out of the mix will be processed through it. Don't go cheap on this vital component.Edited by Guitarhacker ( 10/16/14 10:38 AM). Most of the professional quality gear will not allow 2 cards to be used together in syncI disagree; most 'professional quality gear' do try to allow two cards to be sync'd.M-Audio, MOTU, etc. Syncing cards is not impossible. As long as they are compatible (which often meant having two of the same device) it worked.Syncing two 'different' cards sure is another story though.I get the gist of what you meant, but the 'professional' part threw me, as they are more inclined to allow such things than consumer stuff./I still have a gut feeling this whole thing is a setup issue on the actual device.

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